I believe the DA said there was no evidence of fibers related to the smothering of Bella and Celeste. COFFIN BIRTH OF BABY NICO!-Please read description TY Scrub The Surface 8.27K subscribers Subscribe 13K Share 1.5M views 4 years ago THIS VIDEO IS. People with OCD have rituals. Maintaining compression in a Stranglehold after unconsciousness is rendered may result in death. The manner of death is homicide, the autopsy report says. There is a text I think to chris. Have you interviewed anyone for your books? CW planned it, read it up. There is no soul in his eyes. The trauma dogs noted hot spots in the basement. If youre not OCD, it doesnt mean Shanann wasnt. When asked if they were going to find any marks on her during his confession he said I dont think so and when asked why he said it was because she didnt fight back because I was in such a rage Tell me how that makes any sense at all? Very CW. Theres another case that does involve a murder by a husband on a bed, through manual strangulation, and they found small drops of his and her blood on the sheets, as well as traces of her feces elsewhere in the room. Rossen et al 1943 states that loss of consciousness occurs in five to eleven seconds where there has been carotid and vertebral artery compression. Cheryl: If Chris did that, he definitely has to die. Murdering someone through strangulation doesnt take that long. The graphic autopsy reports detail the condition of all three bodies after they were recovered from an oil site owned by Anadarko Petroluem, where Chris Watts buried them. His mom I think knew about it prior. If CW is the type of father that would never hurt his girls, then his behavior after pulling Shannan off CeCe would be to call 911, try CPR ( he had classes at work) When non murderous parents are confronted with the loss or potential loss of their children they get desperate. Did anyone explain that? Shan'ann Watts tells her husband: "I don't want a video of you" while recording her children Chris Watts Case: What would Sherlock Holmes Do? Similarly, the anxiety caused by these obsessions can be lessened by different compulsions, such as checking (e.g., re-checking door locks, repeatedly making sure the oven is off), repeating (e.g., doing the same action or ritual over and over to be sure it was done correctly), and counting (e.g., doing things in certain numbers, counting items to certain numbers). I have read through this entire post and this is the one question that I dont think is getting enough attention. Not the best proof, but it adds to the chance there was planning. The reports show that the bodies of both little girls were placed inside oil containers with a narrow opening that was only 8 inches in diameter. They are good at lying and work very hard at appearing normal and very important to be liked. So yeah sigh! DENVER (CBS4) The district attorney in Weld County says the autopsy reports are complete for Shanann Watts and her two young daughters found dead at . CeCe did not have any marks & I attribute that to her age, not understanding what was happening & Im sure she lost consciousness quickly as she had breathing problems. She should have seen my house when my kids were little. Jeremy Lindstromwondered if Shananns OCD and honey-do lists had gotten to Chris. My son has many medical issues as well, doesnt make me a hypochondriac ffs she isnt here to defend herself maybe back off a bit. Time of death for all three victims is unknown. The two girls, Bella and Celestes bodies also had same, was noted in autopsy reports is from decomp process. I am not saying he touched the purse. Unfortunately, I know what its like to be strangled. So what Was his motivation for that? The childrens cause of death was given as asphyxiation due to smothering. Bella also had Blunt force trauma. The Watts family killings and the financial devastation, infidelity, and what appears on the videos as a mindless neglect of the children overlay all these sad accounts. Watts pleaded guilty to murdering Shanann, Celeste and Bella to avoid the death penalty. No other way to put it. Nickole Atkinson was first to sound the alarm; she told police she dropped Shannan off and Shannon was 15 weeks pregnant and not feeling well. Shannann even said that he was like another person. This put undo pressure on the marriage and Chris being the douche bag he is, it was too much pressure to perform I beleive. Want to keep up with the latest. What about rigormortis?. Why was her phone downstairs along with suitcase. I had assumed all the way through that he had used a pillow. You can argue till the cows come home and all you end up arguing is that she could be in any non-specific place in the house. With ShanAnn, IF she was attacked and killed shortly after she arrived home, while still downstairs, she would have still been dressed her underwear and pants would have caught it. He wanted out, didnt want the baby., and took the cowards way. Therefore your theory is not valid. It is my opinion that one could not have this mix in the stomach unless it was swallowed and if the stomping on the head didnt bring Bella out of unconsciousness before being immersed in the oil, then she was very possibly (and hopefully) unaware of what was happening. He didnt flip. Youre obviously trolling! I guess he did want to get rid of them all, and do it all over again with her. Or it might be that a place for everything and everything in its place is a good way for me to manage time being able to grab what I need when I need it without having to faff around looking for it. I am shocked shes not been charged too. Which she combed over the menu trying to come up with that amount for one person. She even labelled food in her kitchen. Chris Watts was convicted of murdering his pregnant wife Shanann, their unborn child, and their two children, Celeste and Bella, ages 4 and 3. Theres really not much to say about this, right? And honestly Im sure he had a lot of time on his hands to do stuff. @Nick I thought the bedsheets in the bedroom were soiled? But yeah I really think he was being nicer to her to assure she had her guard down when he murdered her; which was when she was sleeping, on the sofa upstairs on her phone or laptop, or god forbid he initiated some kind of intimacy that turned into her death. My question is how do you smother someone with your bare handscover/press their nostrils and mouths? I am of the opinion that: Bella was unconscious but still breathing when she was forced brutally into the oil tank, and her injuries were sustained during this push. I dont know her daily habits, but i use mine as an alarm. Tell the world, especially the misinformed idiots who think Chris Watts is an attractive man and Shannan was controlling. Dont jump on me buthear me bnb ot, I believe Chris. https://www.ftc.gov/sites/default/files/documents/public_comments/trade-regulation-rule-disclosure-requirements-and-prohibitions-concerning-business-opportunities-ftc.r511993-00010%C2%A0/00010-57283.pdf. He dug the grave with a shovel. Could be so because Shanann had no defensive wounds and he said she didnt fight. Please explain. Have they watched something? This is horrific, shocking, my mind is greatly troubled by this aspect. etc. Thats a power-nap another thing MLM folk are good at. It's difficult to speculate what the norm would be in a criminal case, especially where an autopsy would need to be performed on both the mother . It is a condition that causes you to have irrational and uncontrolled thoughts, and the only way to make the thoughts stop, is to perform a ritual. Thankyou Nick for all your studies, research and insights. read befor comment on subjectit is well describedecomposition did this. He said he was downstairs, came back up and they were gone. Will we ever know the order in which they were killed? The bra thing means nothing, my daughter is big busted as well and slept in her bra when she was pregnant because her breasts that were tender were less bothersome at night if she wore one. Specifically, the region of your brain that controls the muscles that hold your sphincter closed becomes incapacitated following death. Debbie do you have a link to that 411 Documentary please? Based on the clothing they were found in, probably Chris pretended to be asleep. From what I understand its not possible to swallow fluids once youre dead. Or after kids went to bed, and Im sure she didnt want to become an instant Mom! If you read through the autopsies very well you will see that the oldest girl, Bella, actually bit her tongue several times and had many injuries in her mouth. Do you think she was murdered elsewhere? A person who is killed and immediately wrapped up and taken out of the home within an hour isnt going to be in rigor in that time- the first rigor shows up in about 1-2 hours, and then takes about 12 hrs to fully develop Then dissipates again about 12 hours later. The autopsy also made no references to elevated levels of any Thrive-related chemicals. In fact, its not just the muscles but also the gas produced inside your body following death that will cause peeing and pooping. The sheets were off because he used the fitted sheet to wrap her body in because of its rounded corners, he said this to the investigators. The detective said not really. I have always slept with a bra on and I am 43 years old, always. It appeared to be an addiction by this point it was all she wanted to do. Explains why Shanann didnt fight back. The basement had everything in plastic bins all labeled & neatly stacked. The LeVel MLM was a huge contributing factor in this familys financial collapse. Simply stated, you are an ignorant human being, Badmouthing the vicitm like that when she can not defend herself. I once witnessed where someone used Tequila in a hookah instead of water. I slept in my bras with all four of my pregnancies. He said it took minutes, the police reports say. How does pretending to be asleep and cowardice align with murder? Completely empty stomach contents doesnt necessarily indicate they died when Shanann died. The floors in the closets had a lot of junk on them, her nightstand drawer was a mess. Watts buried Shannan's body in a shallow grave and dumped his daughters' bodies into an oil tank at the oil and gas exploration site where he worked in Frederick, Colorado, US. If the oil got into her stomach by being submerged in the tank then shouldnt CeCe have oil in her system too. I wondered what became of the gas can. They probably already had an emotional conversation before she left for Phoenix and he had made up his mind to do what he did. How do THESE people know? And in his own words under his own free will he admitted he act it killed his kids twice before that was ever said. Jami I have 1 question for you. Watts was no genius, by saying he saw her kill CeCe and giving such a short timeframe for their killings, he left it wide open that they could have been saved had he called 911 or administered CPR instead of murdering his pregnant wife. Was there no evidence of feces on the girls beds either so maybe they were not killed in bed? Did she even go upstairs to sleep? Shanann returned home from a business trip on the early morning hours of August 13, 2019. FACT: I dont believe this was planned because everyone says that its ridiculous that he buried them at his place of employment. What was the motive? The phone was found in the cushions of that upstairs couch, not the downstairs couch. I would say the asshole probably turned them over or put the comforter over their faces and did it that way. My husband and I wrestle and if he sits on my chest with my arms by my side, I cant move. Her fully formed gallstone may have contributed to her not feeling well during her last MLM trip. I doubt shed just leave her phone and stuff downstairs like that. I believe she was probably sleeping when he smothered her. If he straddled her chest, and pins her arms down with his knees, she would have been incapacitated. Here is the parts in Shanann's autopsy report that says the stuff about how her hair was sloughing, that she had skin slippage & bloating/decomposing had started. 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