Only difference is the recoil spring is under the forearm. Why this minor change is called a redesign is anyone's guess, but the several Affinity models I've tested have been solid performers. Im sure theres someone on here that knows more than I about their processes. An oversized bolt release and enlarged loading port make this shotgun easier to load and operate even with gloves. This means that while Benelli now owns the company, it still produces guns separately from its new parent company. Franchi 12 gauge: Except Sporting SL O/U, Highlander, I-12 Sporting and Affinity current production with trapezoidal threads: interchanges with Trulock's Beretta/Benelli style. It was a surprise, considering the generally good performance of earlier Beretta autos and the Urika 2 in 12 gauge. It's a great gun. Benelli keeps trying to reduce the felt recoil, with mixed results. One can speculate that the only 20 shotguns Benelli ever made that shoot to point of aim at 40 yards were sent to me, but the chances of that are slim to none, and Slim just left town. My first year owning one I got it at Christmas. JavaScript is disabled. If I had to pick one I'd take the franchi all day. Affinity 3.5 Waterfowl Elite. Capacity Benelli Legacy Mobl Benelli Montefeltro (prior to 2007) Mobl Benelli M-2 Crio Benelli Vinchi Crio Benelli Ultra Light Crio Benelli Sport 11 Crio Benelli Super Sport Crio . Pretty tempted. ETA COMING SOON Screw 3.5" for bird hunting. Leave this field blank. The bolt release is downright massive, the cross-bolt safety is ample and the charging handle enlarged and tubular. The floating part of the bolt compresses a spring and that's how the gun works. This div height required for enabling the sticky sidebar, 2022 Yestactical.com We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. The standard Benelli Montefeltro and M2 models are classic fare and they rate as good guns. Affinity 3 Waterfowl Elite . Affinity 3 Turkey Elite . Browning later licensed the design to Savage, who produced it from 1930-1949 as their Model 720. I have a Beretta Tekneys 391 that I have used and abused for years and its held up remarkable well with the Xtragrain. I beat the absolute crap out of it duck, pheasant and grouse hunting and I have never had an issue. The ultralights have fake wood. The Browning Maxus isgas-driven- I'm looking to get an inertia gun. Benelli Ultralite in the semi auto category. Have an 1100 and a bunch of pumps but want a semi that I can beat up and not feel bad about. Anybody have any input? I like how the sight is a little raised on the Affinity while the montefeltro is lower. This recoil pad is designed with anti-muzzle jump technology, a non-slip NAVCOM material, and is very easy to installed with no fitting required. If you ever have any problems with your shotgun, you should be able to find the information you need from either companys customer service department. If you think I'm wrong, you might be right. Cant go wrong with monte for the money. The company is headquartered in Urbino, Italy. Now that the original Civolani patents have expired, there is a glut of inertia models on the market. The only thing I don't like is the small loading port. I love it. LimbSaver Classic Precision Recoil Pad, Benelli 12ga. This inertia-operated shotgun also. The only semi auto I've ever had was a Browning Double Auto 12ga. I do not like all the complaints about the SBE3 shooting high. I saved a few bucks but still got a great gun! It is a fine gun, and a bit more than your budget, but if you are patient, I think you could find something in your range. The Herstal Group puts Browning Silver and Gold variants in Winchester boxes and the Winchester SX3 and Browning Maxus are among the softest shooting autoloading actions. 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The modern inertia action was invented by Bruno Civolani and is synonymous with the Benelli brand in many circles. No issues with 3" and a few of 3.5" I shot. Throw a m2 znd franchi affinity on your list . Sure, folks wanted ribs on their Model 12s for trapshooting, but there wasn't much debate about the "good autoloader" or the "good shotgun" back then. I don't think you can go wrong for the money. In spite of all its advantages, the Benelli shotgun also has some disadvantages that should be considered before making a purchase. The quality is great. Reviving this thread. Should be plenty of posts on it use the search feature. You must log in or register to reply here. Some claim recoil doesn't matter, but with all the miracle recoil pads, springy stock things, and managed-recoil shotshells out there, to many people how soft a shotgun shoots remains very important. Newsletter Sign-Up. Apr 28, 2019 #3 BriarPatch99 Senior Member Franchi is owned by Beretta (Holdings) .. Franchi is imported by Benelli USA .. JavaScript is disabled. After a blazing introduction, Vinci sales have apparently fallen a bit flat. If you buy the franchi you will have wished you had a benelli- buy once, cry once. Also if you look at the montefeltro notice the vent rib is lower on that gun than the others mentioned,it might not fit as well as say a m2 benelli. Retay vs Benelli vs Franchi 20 or 12 gau Btw, I've got a Tristar G2 410 and an Escort 20 gauge auto and really like them both. It features over-sized controls that make it easy to manipulate even if you've got gloves on or damp hands from setting decoys out. You are using an out of date browser. The nephew just bought the Intensity. I bought one a few years back and I freaking love it. Franchi is an Italian company that has been making high-quality shotguns for over a hundred years. I used the ethos all last season and it was great for all day carrying. Snipers Hide is a community of Snipers of all kinds, focusing on long range shooting, accuracy, and ballistics. Posted on 12/4/13 at 12:40 pm 0 0 I am on the fence which one. The Franchi Affinity, an inertia gun, is assembled at the Benelli facility in Urbino, Italy. Affinity 3.5 Turkey Elite . It shoulder well and Ive patterned waterfowl loads and XRs out of it and it shoots great! Woods and Water Media LLC I believe the Benelli M2 was the sweetest of them all BUT my wife would divorce me ( I have one in a 12 ga). Franchi Votes: 0 0.0% . The Benelli Vinci is, at least according to Benelli, the first shotgun made entirely by automation with no human intervention. What are some other suggestions? Buddy of mine got one also, and compared it to his Benelli M2 and he feels cheated that he paid that much for the Benelli. I've never had a ultralight but I absolutely love the 20ga Montefeltro. "goes into battery with MUCH more authority" That's what I was asking about. Made at the Benelli facility in Urbino, the newest Franchi Affinity 3 has a larger charging handle and a bigger bolt release than the original Affinity. I'm hoping tobuy another semi-auto 12gawaterfowl gun for next season (will use it for various other things too - pheasant, turkey, small game, crow). I bought the Affinity. The long recoil action was the only autoloading shotgun action that actually worked for many decades. Affinity 3 Elite Upland. Nor did most folks obsess over ribs and beads, as a raised/ventilated rib was deemed unnecessary for hunting purposes. In 2000, Benelli purchased Franchi from the Beretta Holding Company. But, I agree- total b.s. My experience thus far has been great and it should be on your "must see" list before you settle for something elseI'm glad I did. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Supporter+. Overall, the pros and cons of the Benelli shotgun should be carefully considered before making a purchase. You must log in or register to reply here. Look up the Benelli click I beleive the Franchi is effected by it but SBE 3 is not. FRANCHI AFFINITY 3 VS BENELLI M2 SERIES. In my case, it always happened when I was moving fast up to my dogs on point or brush catching the bolt handle. Sign up for a new account in our community. The gas system is incredibly simple and innovative. Aug 29, 2012 #6 G But after shooting them side by side, the action on the benelli is a little smoother. Good luck. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I have the SBE 2 and 3.. both awesome guns. Nevertheless, the Vinci rates as a good gun, if you don't mind its peculiarities and somewhat alarming aesthetics. The o/u is a blast on clays too! I don't need camo or any special recoil stuff just want a gun that will go boom a bunch of times without having to mess with anything. With its high price tag and potential reliability issues, it may not be the best choice for everyone. For the 10 year warranty and a stronger brand name, the Benelli M2 and Benelli Montefeltro are low-maintenance workhorses, albeit at a high price. Benelli Montefeltro vs Browning Silver Hunter, Browning Maxus Hunter vs Benelli Montefeltro, Benellis Montefeltro shotgun features a slim, graceful forend, which, combined with an anodized, lightweight receiver, keeps the weight minimal and the swing quick. The direct acting shotguns with the Benelli system kick like a mule. It wasn't that tough, for a 2-3/4 inch chamber was all that was needed or wanted, lead was shot at everything and something like a Browning A-5 Light Twelve 12 gauge bored modified choke did it all. I laughed out loud, for 11/16 ounce of shot is a .410 bore load or a substandard 28 gauge load. It is a great buy for the money and a good gun in general. Franchi is a sister company of Benelli, and Benelli is, after all, the brand that introduced American hunters to the benefits of Inertia-Driven shotguns. I busted some clays today with the bro-law and nephew. Raised rib on Franchi, low rib on Benelli, nicer wood/bluing on Benelli vs matte finish on Franchi. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. You are using an out of date browser. shoot some 1oz shotshells in it and it will do fine. If you want to save some money get the Franchi. Similar to NDGuy's purchase, I saw a baisic berretta over under for around $800, would have been a great buy. Benelli Recommends ETHOS Shotgun Starting at $2,199 View Features Select Options to Find Model Application Hunting Species Waterfowl Upland Turkey Action Semi-auto Gauge 12-Gauge 20-Gauge 12 Gauge 2 3/4", 3", 3 1/2" Stock Finish Black Synthetic Mossy Oak Bottomland Advanced Filters Price $499 $499 $3399 $3399 14 Results Reset Selections Other than that it is the same as the regular L that goes for $1100-1200 so I thought that was a heck of a deal. Benelli Montefeltro vs Franchi Affinity 3 . Some of the Berettas look pretty fake but others dont look bad. The A400, in 12 gauge, rates as a good gun today; the smaller gauges not so much. A TSA recoil pad reduces recoil by 50% to diminish soreness from repeated shooting. I might be sorry that I gave it to him. Septem/ 0 The Beretta A400 Xplor Unico is a gas operated semi-automatic . Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. How did you guys who had no one to teach you get into hunting? I will try to run down the basic autoloading action types, the better offerings in those action types and why you might wish to consider one over the other. Never an issue.. At the time, I was able to purchase it for just over $1300 so it may be at the top edge of your budget. Are Franchi's made in the Benelli factory or are Benelli's made in the Franchi factory? It uses an ultrareliable Inertia Driven operating . Experience flinch free shots while reducing your recoil by up to 70% when using a Precision-Fit Recoil Pad from LimbSaver. Current guns interchange with Trulock's Beretta/Benelli style. They are also popular among competitive shooters and hunters. A 7-1/4 pound gun, currently offered in synthetic stocked versions, but with a low price (starting at $675 or so). As far as I'm concerned, the Fabarm L4S is the best finished, best overall autoloader on the market. i'm just looking for a reliable tough gun that will last. If you look at them side by side, though.. It is 2-3/4" long and threads are located at the muzzle end of the choke (top of choke where choke notches are.) Maybe for that 1 shot at a turkey but multiple shots are brutal. No idea concerning the montefeltro. I always thought the SX3 was on the lighter side for a 12ga. The monefeltro is also a great gun,imo it shoots smoother than most other benelli's, don't know why, just seems it to me. I am a lefty so that is making me lean towards the Monte. They are excellent gas guns using the "two piston" idea that works quite well. Found this Montefeltro 20ga at my local shop, think I have found the gun I have been looking for. It is a great gun that also looks great. Have shot a number of different one's but none was in the same class as that old Browning! Franchi's Affinity 3 uses an inertia-driven operating system that weighs less, has fewer moving parts and runs cleaner than gas-powered shotguns. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. That's part of the reason it stands out so much. Get the Benelli, bought my son a Franchi and had problems with it not ejecting casings properly. Coldest I went out was around zero and I ended up putting around 300 rounds through it with no issues and no cleaning. The inertia driven guns kick way harder than the gas guns and difference in dependability is negligible today I wasted a few hundred dollars figuring thatout. Ultimately, benelli (the company) isn't going to mind if you purchase the benelli or franchi as they are all owned by the same company, beretta. The deepest craving of human nature is the need to be appreciated.. 414. The stock design on the three inch (shell length) Vinci has smashed fingers with a safety some find difficult to reach. The Benelli brand has several solid inertia guns that are very well known. Im not certain..not claiming to be an expert. Few bothered with recoil pad selection, for most of the 2-3/4 inch A-5's had no recoil pad. JavaScript is disabled. Weatherby offers their SA-08 models, made by ATA in Turkey. Franchi and Benelli are part of the Beretta group. The added some kind of ball-and-detent mechanism to the SBE3that ensures the bolt gets into battery, even if knocked out of battery or is slowly moved into position. Otherwise, it has cycled everything from pigeon loads down to subsonic 15/16 ounce Winchester Feathers." Benelli Montefeltro vs Franchi Affinity. Franchi affinity vs sa-08 vs Stoeger 3020 which one? It is a higher quality gun and the action is smoother. (Nor do many shooters like the "double shuffle" recoil of the A-5, which actually increases the felt recoil. The 3-inch, 12-gauge guns are only a few ounces lighter than the 3-inch version, running 6.8 to 6.9 pounds, depending on barrel length. Which ever gun feels the best. As far as my own preference, in a 12 gauge it would be the Fabarm USA L4S as an upland gun and the Remington V3 as a plain-Jane looking, but do everything type of autoloader. Last year I handled multiple versions of the benelli and beretta 20 gauge autos and I went with the Montefeltro. Bought them when they were first introduced. Both are flawless and have served me well! In addition to shotguns, they also make rifles and pistols. It may not display this or other websites correctly. By They kick like a mule. The classic Auto-Five would be very costly to produce today and we do not like making adjustments to autoloaders based on load intensity. I'm curious if anyone has shot/usedboth - what are your thoughts? Rather than fix the three inch Vinci pistol grip, Benelli decided to make the change on the 3-1/2 inch Vinci, but ignored the three inch model. Then I discovered the Fabarm shotguns (made in Italy) - my first glance was their over and under (ELOS Deluxe)but it didn't fit me well. A member of this forum had a similar experience and I quote: It is a difficult question to answer, Ev. Although I have a soft spot for the Browning Double Auto, it is not mainstream and has not been produced for many years. In any case, we now have eternal debates about terms, like shootability, pointability, felt recoil and how much a shotgun is supposed to weigh. You must log in or register to reply here. Thanks for sharing your experiences. I suspect that the 'T' in P.T. The Franchi is a very good gun and if the Benelli's price is an issue, the Franchi fits the bill. Montefeltro or Franchi Affinity Shotgun? Montefeltro works good for me. The walnut versions are great looking guns, as befits a Weatherby. As I've said before --'' as your age increases , the weight of your shotgun decreases ''. Boasting a 316L stainless steel tube, a low drag follower anodized red, stainless steel spring and steel barrel clamp with a sling swivel, this Sure Cycle magazine tube extension is the premier extension for your Franchi 12 gauge shotgun including the Affinity, 612 & 912. Their guns are used by many professional shooters and hunters, and they have a reputation for being very reliable and well-made. Caused him to miss some nice birds. I have the A300 in 20 gauge and the sporting version of the franchi in 12. The 20 gauge weighs only six pounds. A pump action or semi-automatic shotgun would be a better choice. All rights reserved. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Guess I could add that I've shot a Montefeltro 20 since the '90s, and think the world of them. Stay Up-To-Date With the Latest on Franchi. Don't know pecans about lefties and right handed guns, but do know lefties are the only ones ever expressing a need to be on a certain end of the blind. Once again these two chokes have the same outside . They are good guns. With good triggers and overall excellent assembly, it is both a very solid autoloader that is fairly priced. But if I had to buy another tomorrow, it would most likely be a Franchi. WW, You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. A big part of my decision was how it looked and pointed for me. I got the bottomland camo. Thanks for the responses guys, I live in northern NY and do most of my crow hunting in some pretty cold temps. The main internal difference between a Benelli and a Franchi inertia gun is that the Franchis have the return spring on the magazine tube where it is easy to inspect and clean, while Benellis. Like its Benelli cousins, the Affinity Elite utilizes a very simple cycling system comprised almost entirely of a rotating bolt head, a bolt body, and a return spring. Which is why I ask if anyone has used both and can compare. Affinity 3. I really don't think fouling will ever result in a jam, unlike all the slip ring on magazine tube systems. It is basically a Benelli M2 except cheaper. Both are light and feel great. You must log in or register to reply here. A 60/40 pattern is 3 inches high, a 70/30 pattern is 6 inches high at 40 yards. Didnt read any of the other posts but for easy uplandfield type hunting, get a nice beretta over under in 20ga. You'll love the affinity. by pacecars April 10th, 2021, 8:18 pm, Post Benelli Ethos or Montefeltro by Hotchkiss Fri Feb 13, 2015 2:43 am Well I went to get an Ethos with 26 inch barrell and picked up the Montefeltro. (The A5's recoiling barrel made fitting a full length rib impossible. Well that is a bit concerning, is there any for sure evidence of that? Whether that's worth more to you is your decision. Seems like your pretty into the wood stock and semi's but I have a Browning BPS with a synthetic stock that is my workhorse gun and love it. This is evidenced by the various Vinci Limited models that have plummeted in retail price to a thousand dollars or so. For those who get worn out with the funny colored receivers, Cole Gunsmithing can anodize your A400 receiver into a strikingly good looking gun. The modern gas action significantly reduces felt recoil and that alone makes gas action autoloaders the preferred choice for high volume shooting. Is Benelli that much more worth the price than the Franchi? BE SURE TO SUBSCRIBE FOR HUNTING VIDEOS ALL SEASON LONG!FOLLOW ME ON INSTAGRAM- https://bit.ly/bobbyguyfilmsGET THE FRED SHIRT HERE- https://bit.ly/2Yj1n1VGE. I purchased a franchi affinity last year and I love it. Truly deserves a look and at about $750 it is half the price of many. "All men die, not all men really live". I use it a lot for clays and upland hunting . No matter which one I go with, it will be a dedicated turkey gun. Pic C) Beretta Optima/Benelli Crio: - It can be identified by measuring a flush mount choke tube. Scopes, guns, boots and other tactical stuff in-between. Inertia Driven Operating System Target through Magnum Shell Operating Range Vent Rib Barrel Chrome Lined Barrel Screw- In Choke Barrel IC, Mod and Full Choke Tubes and Wrench Red Fiber Optic Front Sight 4+1 rds. JavaScript is disabled. Newsletter Sign-Up. Pull the trigger, pump, repeat. Affinity 3 Elite Upland. No tears here! Additionally, some users have reported issues with the guns reliability, particularly when it comes to firing shells that have been damaged or deformed in some way. I've never had a ultralight but I absolutely love the 20ga Montefeltro. Benelli has a long history of making high-quality shotguns. However, if you are looking for something with more features or customization options, then there may be better choices out there for you. My wife has a 20 ga monte and its a great gun. Our Sitemap. However, Franchi still operates as an independent brand under the Benelli umbrella. Shotshell, Reloading, Ballistics, & Chokes. She fell turkey hunting and put a gouge in the stock and the wood underneath wasn't nearly as nice as the outer wood. It's essentially a Benelli M2 without the comfortech stock. Inertia guns are high recoil compared to gas guns, but as there is no gas system to clean and they need scant little maintenance. I like the Franchi for its Mobil choke system (so I can reuse the Carlson extended choke tubes I already have) and the price (I might even consider getting the 3 for a lower price - but for now, I'm looking at the 3.5). The forend is designed to keep your eye closer to the bore axis, allowing you to more easily aim down the sight for enhanced accuracy and comfort. The 20-gauge Affinity 3 is available in the same finishes, with only a 26-inch barrel and is quite a bit lighter at 6 pounds. Finally, the Benelli shotguns recoil can be significant, which may be an issue for shooters who are inexperienced or sensitive to recoil. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Thanks. Barnum stands for Tactical. For the money, they are nice, reliable guns. Benelli has recoil spring in the stock, not under the forearm. mazzgolf First post, not much of a water foul guy but I figured you guys should know about a reliable Semi. At the time, I was able to purchase it for just over $1300 so it may be at the top edge of your budget. I have the Franchi with(I believe) the bottom land camo. This can be an issue if you need to defend yourself against multiple attackers or if you simply want to go hunting with friends. Ya'll can have it lol. Anything internal drastically different? Follow Us On Social If youre considering buying a Franchi shotgun, doing some research to find out which model best suits your needs is a good idea. Ultimately, benelli (the company) isnt going to mind if you purchase the benelli or franchi as they are all owned by the same company, beretta. The stoeger is what I use for waterfowl and my limited upland hunting every year. The second-best selling autoloading shotgun in history (behind the Remington 1100), the Auto-5 is no longer made. Love my Beretta A400, Very similar to the Benelli you're looking at. Gonna call Franchi tomorrow. I think you are right. . Franchi Affinity: First shipments of these interchange with Trulock's Crio Plus style. Never hear a righty say, "I'm right handed, so I need to be". 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